2024-04-29 - Problems synchronising with the Android app and the Joplin Cloud

Coffee · 2024-06-23T15:29:20.017Z

Coffee:

In doing so, I encountered a problem in the iOS app that prevented me from checking the result of one of the corrections in iOS.

I forked 2024-06-23-ios-content-of-a-subfolder-not-accessible to describe it.

n00b12345 · 2024-06-25T05:24:57.695Z

I may have the same problem. Sync is super fast on Desktop but on Android app, it's super slow.

I am running a dockerised Joplin server.

Coffee · 2024-06-27T17:59:00.680Z

2024-06-27 - Just a coincidence?

After a few days without any problems with new conflicts and even being able to solve a few conflicts manually, I had a series of "attachment conflicts" again today for the first time. I find it strange that these conflicts occurred immediately after I had created a new published note.

Is that just a coincidence – or is there a connection?

Screenshot 2024-06-27 194824

Coffee · 2024-07-02T09:31:58.940Z

Coffee:

Since I uninstalled all the instances of Joplin apps that I didn't really need and deleted my main profile in my Android app and then synchronised it fresh from the Joplin cloud, I haven't felt any uncontrollable increase in the number of conflicts in the data of my main profile.

The number of conflicts in my Android app has risen again to 194, after I manually cleaned it up from 790 to 0 on 2024-06-16.
Since 2024-06-13, I have been recording the sync status figures for my Android app and my Windows app on a daily basis, and since 2024-06-16, I have also been doing so for my iPad app.
The numbers there raise further questions. For example, each app shows a different number of notes.
I will continue to create and store a JEX export of my data from my Windows app on a weekly basis.
I assume that a first V3 of the Joplin app will be released soon.
I hope that my data will remain clean enough until then, without me having to spend more time on detailed analyses.
The Note Info plugin for Android should also be available by then.
We'll see how the sync status figures develop and whether it will be possible to get my data clean with V3.
In the meantime, I have also found out that certain folders and notes that are shared between Joplin Cloud IDs are unfortunately not shared, contrary to expectations.
If I have to make this discovery with V3 as well, I will create a new post on a new topic of problems with shared folders and notes.

Coffee · 2024-07-03T08:38:03.464Z

Coffee:

I assume that a first V3 of the Joplin app will be released soon.

Today the updates to V3 for Windows and Android have arrived
Joplin 3.0.12 (prod, win32)
Joplin 3.0.7 (prod, android)
iPAD still on 12.14.8
On Android, I have taken advantage of the new option since 3.0 to install a first plugin:
Joplin debug tool: 0.2.0

Coffee · 2024-07-05T07:54:06.334Z

Coffee:

The numbers there raise further questions. For example, each app shows a different number of notes.

I have derived a feature request from this

2024-07-05 - Android synchronisation status - Select, copy and share text Features

Forked from 2024-04-29 - Problems synchronising with the Android app and the Joplin Cloud - #46 by Coffee I am requesting this feature because it would make it easier to analyse the many error messages and conflicts in the database. Currently - Joplin 3.0.7 (prod, android) - you can see the resource IDs of elements in the synchronisation status, but you cannot copy them to be able to search for them manually with the debug tool, for example. Feature request: The results of the synchronisatio…

Coffee · 2024-07-06T13:35:29.042Z

Coffee:

The number of conflicts in my Android app has risen again

My 2024-07-06 - 3:00 pm fork of this is:

2024-07-06 - Do you recommend where to start resolving conflicts? Support

Operating system Android Joplin version 3.0.7 Desktop version info Joplin 3.0.12 (prod, win32) Sync target Joplin Cloud What issue do you have? Forked from Even with version 3 of Joplin, my problems with inconsistent data, conflicts, conflicts with attachments and elements that cannot be decrypted have not become any smaller. A detailed description of all anomalies would be so complex that probably nobody would take the time to read and understand it in detail. I wonder if anyone can giv…

Coffee · 2024-07-06T15:10:14.545Z

personalizedrefriger:

I've just added documentation on how to show information for a specific note/notebook/resource from an ID . (Previously, documentation on this feature was missing).

Now I am starting my first deep dive using your plugin and questions about details come to my mind.

What is the meaning of
encryption_applied = 0

grafik

personalizedrefriger · 2024-07-06T15:41:34.412Z

If encryption_applied is 1, the item is waiting to be decrypted by Joplin. For example, if end-to-end encryption is enabled, items that have been just downloaded from the sync target might have encryption_applied set to 1. After being processed by Joplin's DecryptionWorker, these items should have encryption_applied=0.

encryption_applied should refer to the local state of the item, not the remote state.

Coffee · 2024-07-06T16:02:44.100Z

Coffee:

questions about details come to my mind

@personalizedrefriger

What is the meaning of

updated_time
user_updated_time

laurent · 2024-07-06T16:20:59.343Z

user_updated_time is the "last updated" time that you can manually set in the note property. updated_time is the effective "last updated" time.

By the way we document all this, so if you are wondering about any property, it's all in the help page: Joplin Data API | Joplin (the search function is also useful to search for a specific property)

Coffee · 2024-07-06T17:06:06.661Z

laurent:

By the way we document all this, so if you are wondering about any property, it's all in the help page: Joplin Data API | Joplin (the search function is also useful to search for a specific property)

Thanks for this recommendation

laurent:

user_updated_time is the "last updated" time that you can manually set in the note property. updated_time is the effective "last updated" time.

What is the purpose of being able to change the values for user_updated_time and user_created_time manually?

laurent · 2024-07-06T17:16:14.593Z

One obvious use case is when importing notes from another app. Internally we want the created_time property to be the real time when the note was imported (as it is used for sync purposes). However user_created_time will be set to the time when the note was created in the other note taking app. That allows preserving timestamps basically.

In the forum you'll also find some users who want to change the timestamp because they accidentally modified the note for example.

Coffee · 2024-07-06T19:35:10.465Z

Coffee:

Today the updates to V3 for Windows and Android have arrived
Joplin 3.0.12 (prod, win32)
Joplin 3.0.7 (prod, android)
iPAD still on 12.14.8

2024-07-06 - 21:28 - Windows Update - Joplin 3.0.13 (prod, win32)

Now I have
Joplin 3.0.13 (prod, win32)
Joplin 3.0.7 (prod, android)
Joplin 12.14.8 on iPAD

Coffee · 2024-07-06T20:29:11.475Z

Coffee:

The number of conflicts in my Android app has risen again

My 2024-07-06 - 10:30 pm fork of this is:

2024-07-06a - Conflict Note from 23.8.2022, 13:17:29 Support

Operating system Android Joplin version 3.0.7 Desktop version info Joplin 3.0.12 (prod, win32) Joplin 3.0.13 (prod, win32) Sync target Joplin Cloud What issue do you have? 2024-07-06a - Conflict Note 770b17165d8f453890ae49066bcc928e from 23.8.2022, 13:17:29 Forked from Late this afternoon, I chose a first problem for closer examination. It's a small note about a nice restaurant that I noticed while on vacation 8/23/2022, 13:17:29. This note contains the URL of the place and two scree…

Coffee · 2024-07-07T17:42:51.947Z

Coffee:

The number of conflicts in my Android app has risen again

My 2024-07-07 - 19:40 pm fork of this is:

2024-07-07 - Android - four elements are not decrypted Support

Operating system Android Joplin version 3.0.7 Desktop version info Joplin 3.0.12 (prod, win32) Joplin 3.0.13 (prod, win32) Sync target Joplin Cloud What issue do you have? Forked from Today I picked out a second problem case and examined it more deeply with the help of the Joplin debug tool plugin 0.2.0, both on Android and on Windows: The message "Some elements cannot be decrypted" on my Android and the four IDs that are mentioned there. [2024-07-07 - störende Meldung - IDs] Using the…

Coffee · 2024-08-04T09:50:29.718Z

laurent:

It should download all attachments by default. I'm not grasping the complexity of your particular case at the moment since there are many posts, but if you can narrow it down that may help. For example you have a specific image in desktop, and it doesn't appear in mobile, let's find out why.

Even with Joplin 3.0.8 (prod, android) I still have 5501 attachments that have not been downloaded.
I suspect that the Android app currently only downloads individual attachments when I open a note whose attachments have not yet been downloaded.
Who needs to do what to ensure that a future version of Joplin on Android really downloads all attachments at once?

Coffee · 2024-08-28T15:10:05.195Z

laurent:

It should download all attachments by default. I'm not grasping the complexity of your particular case at the moment since there are many posts, but if you can narrow it down that may help. For example you have a specific image in desktop, and it doesn't appear in mobile, let's find out why.

With Joplin 3.0.8 (prod, android) I still have 5458 attachments that have not been downloaded.
I suspect that the Android app currently only downloads individual attachments when I open a note whose attachments have not yet been downloaded.
Who needs to do what to ensure that a future version of Joplin on Android really downloads all attachments at once, @laurent ?

personalizedrefriger · 2024-08-28T16:12:27.052Z

Coffee:

currently only downloads individual attachments when I open a note whose attachments have not yet been downloaded.

In "Configuration" > "Synchronization" > "Advanced", is "Attachment download behavior" set to "Always"? In "Auto" mode, attachments should only be downloaded when opening a note.

Coffee · 2024-08-29T08:12:52.441Z

personalizedrefriger:

In "Configuration" > "Synchronization" > "Advanced", is "Attachment download behavior" set to "Always"? In "Auto" mode, attachments should only be downloaded when opening a note.

Thanks for the tip, @personalizedrefriger !
I have now changed my configuration from "Automatic" to "Always".
In the side menu at the bottom under "Synchronize" I can now see that many attachments are being downloaded.
Only when this download and the decryption is completely finished does it make sense to take a closer look at the other inconsistencies in my data set.