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I’ve been using Joplin for a while and I really enjoyed it because it’s a really good alternative to Evernote and I like very much Markdown. I even gave a little money to Joplin developper to thank him for his good job.

All this was good even if some capabilities were still missing like an easy way to link notes together as easy as in a desktop wiki like zim. I also wanted a graph view to navigate among my notes. But none of the app I was trying was giving satisfaction.

Until the recent day i have discovered Obsidian (https://obsidian.md/).
Obsidian is also an electron app but it has what i was looking for !
A desktop application (no server) with markdown notes, wiki links and of top of that a graph view to navigate into your notes.
So I moved for Obsidian which is a totally new application wich totally corresponds to my needs. So this post will be my last 'cause I switched for Obsidian.md
I just wanted to help people like me who are searching for this kind of power tool which let you build your really personal knowledge management system.


It is sad to see you go. But you are welcome to come back when Obsidian changes their license condition and you get pissed :wink:

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Indeed the issue with closed source apps is that they can bait-and-switch you since they know it’s often hard to migrate to a different app once you’re used to it. Also Obsidian doesn’t have a mobile app, which would be an issue for some users.


I really hope that there is going to be internal links (wiki-style) soon so that with Joplin, it would be possible to have a desktop wiki that surpasses Zim by far. :smiley:


I have used Obsidian and came back because despite the lack of graph view, zettelkasten and a note multiplexer, Joplin is the most structured note taking app. Obsidian is a great product. Especially considering it is still in beta. But leaves a lot to be desired not in the buggy software, but the way the software is designed and structured. But that could be just me.

Here is my learnings from Obsidian and Zettelkasten I have been following since recently.

  • Graph view is an amazing feature, it really changes the way you think about your notes. And the link that powers it is just great.
  • Zettelkasten method is the next possible upgrade an ordinary note can have. Links make all the difference really.
  • Obsidian is buggy (again, it is in beta) and theming or even font/font size is a huge pain. Super small fonts and I have to use the web console to manually change the font and font size.
  • They allow you have local notes through their personal license. But again, not privacy, security focused I felt. Maybe it is just me or because it is a proprietary software.
  • Also, Zettelkasten method kind of encourages you to take notes. Currently, I like to keep it as small as possible because I know it might be forgotten. With notes connected the way in a Zettelkasten, the more notes you have the more fun and knowledge base you’ll end up having. So I have noticed that I write more notes while I was using the Zettelkasten method.

What would I want to see from Obsidian in Joplin?

  • Graph view and the links would be the only two things really.
    • Links are in conversations here and there in the forum, so expecting something soon. You can also link them in Joplin but not the way of a Zettelkasten :slight_smile:
    • Hoping the graph view would be considered soon.

@inkspreads I’ve tested it for me too and I agree to your assessment. For me however, I didn’t see any benefit of the graph view but that may just be because I didn’t get it right yet. I can imagine that this is an interesting idea for some people.

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Maybe not everyone find it useful. I am a very visual person, so maybe that is why I find it very useful. :slight_smile:

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