Single Spacing as standard default for all notes

Operating system

Windows

Joplin version

3.3.13

Editor

Rich Text Editor

What issue do you have?

post title says it.
I have seen the same question in various forms from past.
Has anything changed about accommodating those that don't like the current defaults. Why can't text editing work like every other text editor: hitting 'enter' drop down just one line?

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It's a limitation with the TinyMCE rich text editor, see: Change how paragraphs are handled in Rich Text editor · Issue #8600 · laurent22/joplin · GitHub

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I see. Too bad. I'll presume that changing to a different rich text editor is itself problematic, or too time consuming. Or maybe the markdown bias is so strong there is no interest in having a better rich text editor.
Encountering markdown in Joplin is new to me. Have not used it before, have not had an issue with regular text editors, and am finding having the two editors in one program, with different features more complicated. It is a downside in using Joplin. However, I have found, that the markdown editor does single space when hitting the enter key, as rich text should. I have yet to use any markdown editing commands.

Yeah the markdown editor will work as you expect in regards to spacing

You can find documentation on markdown syntax here: Markdown Guide | Joplin, it's pretty simple/easy to learn

There are also some plugins that can make it feel a bit closer to a rich text editor:

Rich Markdown - Can display embedded images in edit mode and allow you to toggle checkboxes in edit mode (among other things)

Extra Markdown editor settings - Allows you to hide markdown formatting characters on anything other than the selected line

I read the markdown guide a while ago. Just don't feel any need for the formatting. mostly use bold, and making lists, with or without checkboxes.
Having markdown embedded is more a problem than help. eg: in a list today, wanted to add another item but couldn't; until I figured out to switch to rich text mode. Then it was simple: hit enter to get another line and start typing. In md mode, seemed like the list was locked.

I can accept that md is useful to some people, for some reason. Just not for any reason that I have. Ideally, would be nice, when installing Joplin, to have the option of a better text editor, and not install md.

I've had a read through Change how paragraphs are handled in Rich Text editor · Issue #8600 · laurent22/joplin · GitHub and actually I agree that the Rich Text Editor does work the same way as Microsoft Word on Windows.

I recall actually that many years ago I upgraded to a certain version of Microsoft Word (possibly Office 2007) and noticed that pressing enter leaves a larger space than it used to, and I found it really annoying. Ever since then however, my remedy for this was to adjust the after paragraph spacing to 0cm.

The problem is that Joplin is a Markdown Editor and therefore does not have a concept of paragraph spacing, so new paragraphs get translated to 2 new lines in it's raw form.

@astro46 Just in case you did not notice, the link mentioned that you can use shift+enter in the Rich Text Editor to drop down just one line. It is annoying, but maybe you could train yourself to get used to doing this, if you would rather not use the Markdown Editor. I find that some online tools also behave in this way (eg. Atlassian Jira and Confluence), so whenever I notice a too large gap, I remove the new line and add a proper new line using shift + enter.

@mrjo118 , Yes I saw the comment about using shift+enter for dropping down one line.

Sorry, but having MD in joplin makes things unnecessarily complicated. I can't edit notes unless I am in text mode, in which case I have to remember a special command for line spacing, or switch to md mode, but then I can't edit notes unless I switch to the dual window layout, using more screen space. So I can type text with code in one window and see how it looks in the other window. In my decades of using computers I can't remember wishing I had a way to format docs that was like md. True, when I set up formatting in one program the document may look different in a different program, but if using md, won't a document have a bunch of extraneous, pointless, characters, unless the next program reads md? how is this an improvement?
Are people really formatting documents in joplin, that they will then present to the public through another program? Won't that program need to be md compatible, to avoid seeing a bunch of distracting characters?
Maybe, someday, I'll see the light and love md. But, now, I don't see any advantage in md.

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I did think that MS Word was a step down from Wordperfect. I miss(ed) being able to easily see formatting symbols, and correct formatting by adding/deleting symbols.

It is what it is. Markdown is sort of a middle ground for technical and not so technical users compared to something like html, but if it's not for you that's fair enough. The Rich Text Editor is meant to hide the technicalities of Markdown, but unfortunately the current editor has limitations right now.

I guess what's worse is that the mobile app does not have a Rich Text Editor, but if you're mostly just viewing notes on mobile that is less of an issue.

I see. Too bad. I'll presume that changing to a different rich text editor is itself problematic, or too time consuming.

I think the most likely outcome is that Joplin will be changed to use a different editor at some point, as laurent has stated that it is the preferred option, and also there are other reasons to do so such as license changes in newer versions of the current editor being used. But unfortunately these things take time, particularly being an open source project. So it's up to you really if you're willing to put up with what Joplin has now, weighed up against the benefits for which you chose Joplin in the first place.

When I moved to Joplin almost 2 years ago, aside from experiencing a painful incident, I had to make various changes to the way I do some things due to lack of support for some features - but I can say I've got used to these changes in my workflow and I'm now very happy with Joplin and the productivity I get out of it

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I think another question to ask here could be whether you mostly view notes on mobile because you just prefer to edit them on the desktop, or rather whether you do that specifically because there is no Rich Text Editor there :sweat_smile:. For example, I personally would likely use Joplin on mobile much more if there was RTE implemented there. Markdown isn't great when you have to edit it on a small phone screen…

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Thank you for the shift+enter tip!

Nothing in life is perfect and I miss a feature or two from Evernote but overall I find it a superior choice.