Coming from OneNote lot's of questions

Operating system

Windows

Joplin version

2.14.20

Sync target

File system

Editor

Rich Text Editor

What issue do you have?

Hi there,

This is about my 4th "attempt" to migrate from OneNote to Joplin.

Having a bit more success this time. All my questions, for now, are relating to the Windows version.

Firstly, to get it out of the way, I have no interest in "Markdown". Everything I do will be in the Rich Text Editor. I've installed the "Rich Markdown" plugin, although I have no earthly idea what it's doing for (to) me...

Couple of questions for now:

1 - Entering text in the Rich Text Editor results in double line spacing. If I edit the text in a text editor, I can delete the double spacing. This is more than a little arcane. How can I set Joplin to not do double spacing?

2 - Copying text from my text editor and inserting into the Rich Text Editor result in no carriage returns. Is there a setting for Joplin to recognize the CR's?

3 - How do I change fonts in the Rich Text Editor?

I'm using NotePad++ as my text.

My major heartburn with Joplin at this juncture is the lack of pdf preview in the Rich Text Editor. That's a major fail in my little mind. For now I'll have to toggle to MarkDown mode.

Thanks in advance

chris

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Welcome, thanks for your attempt

you can insert single new line via shift+enter. Double new line via "enter" ensures editor understands the formatting you're after.

For example:

this is a line with quote formatting
this is single line right after quote, not formatted as a quote but understood as a quote

because there's no new line gap the formatting all squashed together. So, to prevent it, editor surrounds paragraphs with this "buffer" spacing automatically to prevent potential confusion down the line

could you share the sample text?

do you mean having global font of the editor changed or parts of text in a specific note?

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You may already know this, but for this reason Joplin may not be your best option. It really is a Markdown note taking application. If that's not what you want, it may not be the app for you.

If you never plan on using the Markdown editor then there is no need for this plugin, AFAIK.

Yeah, I really don't think Joplin is the solution you are looking for. I've always figured that the whole rich text editor is just a patch on top of Markdown that never will provide a true Rich Text experience.

But maybe there is indeed something about Joplin that makes it the right solution despite all this.

@graphit0 already posted an excellent response so I won't repeat it.

I moved to Joplin from Evernote and also spent some time using Microsoft OneNote.

Joplin For Better or Worse is a markdown note-taking app.

If you are needing to move from OneNote to someplace else then Joplin is in my opinion the best choice even though it has differences that you have pointed out that you're uncomfortable with.

In order to work smoothly you need to accept that some of the time you will need to use the markdown editor.

Having HTML support in addition would complicate the product and wysiwig fonts of all sizes and forms would complicate things too much as well.

I I'm still a paid customer of Evernote for the remainder of 2024 and so I'm using both products but Joplin is growing on me rapidly.

My personal suggestion would be to stick it out for a while and give Joplin a serious go because there's nothing out there I can think of that's any better.

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Hello @doobes
I'm like you, and I'm often frustrated by the limitation of markdown.
I'm still questioning my use of Joplin.
I've considered Trilium, but the main developer stopped to work on it and I don't know if it is a long term choice (too bad because from my standpoint, it is the best).
I've suggested at the guys at only office to add a "one note" equivalent to their office suite, but so far nothing.

Sorry for evaporating.

I've been standing up a Joplin server on a RaspberryPi. It's working, although not entirely how I would like. But that's the topic for another message.

I'll play with some of the formatting ideas provided. Thanks for those.

And as to the nay sayers, well that's nice....

Here is an example of pasting text in from NotePad++ (Windows) into the RTE

If I paste it into the Markdown editor it formats correctly.

How do I change that?

Fellow RTE user here! I also came to Joplin from OneNote. Please don't give up yet, Joplin (with RTE) is amazing with lots of power that you can tap. However, I will focus on an easy solution for one of your concerns.

To change the font, you will find options under Settings -> Appearance. You can also get more granular control by creating a file called userstyle.css. The userstyle.css can be created in ~/.config/joplin-desktop on MacOS and C:\users.config\joplin-desktop for Windows. Start with something like the CSS below and tweak as necessary to get the results you want. Download, install, and define fonts like "SF Mono Regular" and "Google Sans" for a cleaner look. Remember to restart Joplin after each CSS update.

/* 2024-04-10 */

p {
 font-size: 14px;
   font-family: "Google Sans", "Segoe UI", Frutiger, "Frutiger Linotype", "Dejavu Sans", "Helvetica Neue", Arial, sans-serif;

/* within a paragraph */
 line-height: 1.4em;
/* between a paragraph, but also impacts "fake" lists */
 margin-bottom: 1.4em;
}
ul.joplin-checklist {
 font-size: 14px;
}
ul li {
 font-size: 14px;
 margin-top: 0em;
 margin-bottom: 0em;
}
ol li {
 font-size: 14px;
 margin-top: 0em;
 margin-bottom: 0em;
}
ul {
 font-size: 14px;
 list-style-type: square;
 margin-top: 0em;
 margin-bottom: 0em;
}

Regarding your issue #2, the pasting from your text editor into Joplin RTE, I have found that pasting into a raw text editor, then copying/pasting into your destination can sometimes fix this, but you will likely lose all of your formatting. You could do a find for every carriage return and insert a   so the editor recognizes the return upon pasting. There are lots of hacks you could use to get around this issue but they require more knowledge of your exact situation.

I hope my comment didn't read as nay saying. I was just trying to point out that Joplin is really a Markdown app with a RTE workaround.

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