Imported Notebooks go straight to trash?

Operating system

Windows

Joplin version

3.5.13

Desktop version info

Joplin 3.5.13 (prod, win32)

Device: win32, Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-7100U CPU @ 2.40GHz
Client ID: 5adf96fc3c2245719c6eaae3b82e0fdf
Sync Version: 3
Profile Version: 49
Keychain Supported: Yes
Alternative instance ID: -

Revision: 0c1511f

Backup: 1.5.1
Freehand Drawing: 4.2.0

What issue do you have?

I open Joplin I go to File > Import > OneNote Notebook. I browse and select my OneNote notebook and Joplin imported the notebook into.... the trash? Not that I don't know that OneNote is garbage but come on now, this is brand new install what gives?

Whatevs, I click and drag the notebook out of the trash and up to the top between Notebooks and All Notes. All seems well. I take care to select All Notes because I have a second notebook to import. Same process: File > Import > OneNote Notebook... This time it imports it right in the center of the first notebook I imported. Ok..... I can drag and move that out too.

Oppsie, I'm new to Joplin and I accidentally moved one of the sections in the notebook under another section. No problem, I'll just go to Undo... Except that doesn't work? I end up having to delete the entire notebook and reimport to fix that very minor move. Surely there is an easier way?

The one thing OneNote had was that it was easy to hit the ground running. Can I not do that w/Joplin? Really I'm just looking for a simple note taking application to help me organize my thoughts. Joplin can not be that complicated right? I don't need or want to learn markdown or a special way to take notes. I need to be able to just open the application and scratch a thought or two down for later. Am I doing something wrong with the way I am using this or is there maybe some additional configuration I didn't notice is required? Long term I need to sync this between a NAS at home and a few android phones. Is that possible?

Sure, there are some areas that the Joplin UI could do with some improvement, but when you say "I don't need or want to learn markdown", maybe this just isn't the right app for you. Markdown is pretty common amoungst note taking apps these days, so you either need to embrace change, put up with the things you don't like, or look for another app that suits your needs. You might wish to use the 'Rich text editor' in Joplin, which means you don't have to learn Markdown, but it does have some limitations.

You can't have it all, especially for an app provided free of charge and mostly developed by volunteers.

Regarding importing notes going directly to the trash though, that is a bug and not expected behaviour. If possible, providing some more detailed reproduction steps could help with fixing it, as this isn't the normal behaviour that most users experience.

How does someone switch to the Rich text editor? I found this link describing it About the Rich Text editor | Joplin and the video within just sort of shows the editor there to the left in Joplin.

As for the detailed reproduction steps its literally just the steps that I mentioned previously. File > Import > OneNote Notebook. The only other thing I did prior to that was open Joplin. And really, I'm not asking for it all, in fact I'm wanting less. As I mentioned previously "I'm just looking for a simple note taking application to help me organize my thoughts."

There's other important details such as:

  • Did you delete the default 'Welcome' notebook?
  • Which notebook was selected on the notebook panel when you imported the file?
  • What was the file extension of your OneNote export?

And really, I'm not asking for it all, in fact I'm wanting less

What I mean is an app can't always be everything you want it to be, because different people have different preferences and use cases. Joplin is highly configurable, but it can only go so far without making maintenance of the app unmanageable.

Click the button on the screenshot:

Regarding importing notes going directly to the trash though, that is a bug and not expected behaviour

Ok I can reproduce this, but only if I have deleted the Welcome notebook first (so there are no notebooks which are not in the trash, or no notebooks at all). I guess that's what you did?

EDIT: A bug report has been raised Desktop: Importing from OneNote: Notebooks can be imported as subfolders of the trash · Issue #15217 · laurent22/joplin · GitHub

I retried the various steps and this is what I've got: So the Welcome! notebook is selected when you first open Joplin. If you don't do anything else and then import a Notebook it will import the notebook into the Welcome! notebook. It seems like it works the same way if you select All notes and then import. So then the other option is to delete the Welcome! notebook and then import. This puts the imported notebook in the trash. I default behavior imo would be to add the imported notebook to the existing list of notebooks. The filetype I am using is the .onepkg format. I think this is the default format for OneNote notebooks if not choosing .pdf or .zip though I don't think .zip is an option anymore at all with OneNote.

Yeah, I was surprised about the OneNote import going into the selected folder, the other import methods don't do that.

There may be a reason for this, but regardless, a bug report is filed now, so this will get looked into. Thanks for raising this

Sure happy to help and thanks for the help with locating the Rich Text editor.