I'm very new to Linux. I want to use Joplin as a replacement for OneNote, for my college lectures to take notes. I installed Joplin using the instructions in the website to install through terminal. It actually worked at first and I opened it up to 3 times. After closing it one time, the app is in my Applications manager and i am able to click on it, the icon appears in the task manager and shows that something is loading on my cursor, but then after 3 seconds it disappears and doesn't open. I also installed the flatpak version and it does the same thing. I also don't know how to uninstall the app in order to try downloading again. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
I have a screen recording of this happening but the forum doesn't support videos to be uploaded.
Iām not even sure what version it is. I just wrote the example version I saw in the box, I assumed it was the most recent version available and assumed the installer gave me that one.
Iām running the same Fedora version and it was running fine until I did some Fedora updates this morning. Then I had the same problem - it appears to start (the little thingy bounces up and down a few times) and then quits. A few restarts of the system didnāt help. The version I was running was, I think, a 3.5.x appimage. I removed it and downloaded the 3.4.12 snap from Fedora and, other than the Templates plugin being totally useless now, it seems to be running normally.
The video the OP posted shows they are having the issue with v3.4.12. Youāre saying you had an issue with the pre-release and downgrading to v3.4.12 actually fixed the issue? Maybe the solution was using snap instead of the app image?
Being a complete newbie to Linux I have no idea what the difference between appimage and snap might be but snap appeared on the list of possibles in the āDiscoverā application so I gave it a try and it worked. I had to reload everything of course (5000 notes, 75000 resources) but once done itās working fine. I usually grab the betas for my Win 10 & 11 boxes but will be more careful on this little Linux system from now on.
I think it was a 3.5.x version I was having problems with but since I no longer have it running it might have been something else. I found a file āJoplin-3.4.12.AppImageā that I had downloaded from somewhere and itās possible that was running. I only mentioned 3.5.x as thatās what I run elsewhere so I assumed it was on the Linux box as well.
UPDATE: I just removed the snap (3.4.12) and reinstalled (via Gear Lever) the appimage, also 3.4.12. It ran the first time but now will not run again. Just the bouncing thing and then nothing. It did find all my notes though so I didnāt have to reload. Iām going to try the snap again.
UPDATE: Removed the appimage, installed the snap and everything is fine again. Lost all the notes but I reloaded one set and it looks perfect.
No one's mentioned this problem in the snap once & I expect the Wayland by default Electron version is why, yes. I try keep deviation as little as possible from upstream but Wayland was too spicy to pass up, and apparently has been incredibly fortunate for KDE users.
The snap has nearly 30,000 weekly users now, it's had 38.2 since the day it was released. I know the testing of further patch releases suggested there might be some issues but I'd potentially suggest it's worth having a 3.4.13 release with Electron 38.2 just for this issue alone tbh, the 38.2 release has been very smooth in snap land.
other than the Templates plugin being totally useless now
Out of curiosity what breaks using this plugin? As an external plugin it might be hard to do anything about unfortunately, and I've not tried it myself, but maybe it can be made to work with a workaround.
I was using Templates v2.4.0 and I had always used a shortcut key (Ctrl-Alt-I) to trigger the insert Template. I had the most often used templates named so they would appear in order of use. I could then hit something like shortcut-down-down-enter and have the third template inserted. Or just shortcut-enter for the top one. The v3.0 of Templates menu pop-up had changed so that (on this updated Linux system anyway) I was forced to use the mouse to select the template. Once the template menu popped up the keyboard was dead.
I put this behaviour down to the Fedora updates and the "appimage/snap" issue. Once I got Joplin working again I reverted to v2.4 of the template plugin and all was well.
It turns out the Fedora updates were not the problem with Templates. Version 3 kills the keyboard on even my Windows 11 systems so the mouse is the only way to select a template. I'd raise a bug about this but it seems to be by design so I'll just have to live with version 2.4. Version 3 forces the hands away from the keyboard and that's a serious no-no when typing.
Hey guys, idk how to make solved on this forum, thanks for all the replies. It works now (completely random, i didnāt do anything) however it takes like 20 seconds to load each time.
Iām guessing what was happening before was that it was just taking forever to load, and never ended up loading. However, this was not happening at all when I first installed the flatpack and appimage, it used to open straight away, then it stopped opening completely, now it opens but after 20 seconds. I want to enjoy Linux and Iām very new to it, but this type of stuff makes me want to go back to Windowsā¦ but I wonāt.
Hi I am not the OP but I have the same issue on two machines with Fedora 43 and KDE. I can report the same behaviour as the OP did with Flatpak and AppImage. Shall I open a new thread?
As I mentioned, the snap (by James Carroll) cured the problem for me. I removed the appimage, loaded the snap using the Discover software center and itās been running fine since. I didnāt try the flatpack.
Thats not a solution to me. I really donāt want to be forced to use Snaps. I think AppImages and Flatpaks should be enough for cross-distro installs. Also the AppImage is the promoted way to install on Linux systems. It should work IMO. So the problem still persistsā¦