# \[UX\] Starting a new note and tags area

**URL:** <https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/ux-starting-a-new-note-and-tags-area/11899>\
**Category:** Features\
**Created:** [23 October 2020 11:38 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/ux-starting-a-new-note-and-tags-area/11899 "2020-10-23T11:38:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![petzi53](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/petzi53/32/4507_2.png) [@petzi53](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/petzi53)\
**Post date:** [23 October 2020 11:38 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/ux-starting-a-new-note-and-tags-area/11899/1 "2020-10-23T11:38:40Z")

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After updating to version 1.2.6 I noticed two changes on the desktop app I do not like at all:

1. When I create a note and I enter the title it is not possible anymore to start with the text after typing return. One has to move the cursor into the text field with the mouse.
2. The tag area is now at the bottom of the screen. So you do not have all the meta-information (title, tags) in one place as it was used previously. But even worse: After you moved the cursor the whole screen down for creating a tag the editor window for tags opens still at the old place above. So you have to move – at least with your eyes, but you want to choose from the dropdown list also with the mouse – twice across the whole screen.

I am not sure if I missed something but I was really surprised as my old routine of opening a note and adding tags did not work as supposed anymore.

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**Author:** ![laurent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@laurent](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/laurent)\
**Post date:** [23 October 2020 14:42 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/ux-starting-a-new-note-and-tags-area/11899/2 "2020-10-23T14:42:23Z")

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The reason it's that way is that not everyone use tags, and even if you do, some notes won't have tags. In that case, there will be a blank white bar at the top of the screen, which is not ideal. It's less of a problem at the bottom.

It's possible the current setup is not the best and I agree it's not great when you have to look up and down all the time to get the right info, but not sure how to improve it at this point.

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**Author:** ![roman\_r\_m](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/roman_r_m/32/3297_2.png) [@roman\_r\_m](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/roman_r_m)\
**Post date:** [23 October 2020 15:39 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/ux-starting-a-new-note-and-tags-area/11899/3 "2020-10-23T15:39:12Z")

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> [@laurent](#):
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> In that case, there will be a blank white bar at the top of the screen, which is not ideal. It's less of a problem at the bottom.

Is it possible to not show the bar if a note has no tags?

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**Author:** ![dpoulton](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/dpoulton/32/29723_2.png) [@dpoulton](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/dpoulton)\
**Post date:** [23 October 2020 15:59 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/ux-starting-a-new-note-and-tags-area/11899/4 "2020-10-23T15:59:19Z")

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> [@laurent](#):
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> but not sure how to improve it at this point.

Just a couple of options to suggest for consideration

### Option 1

- Have the "In: Notebook" button appear at the top of _every_ note, not just when selecting a set of notes by tag (I think @uxamanda has suggested this in another post)

- Use the space to the right for tags

### Option 2

- Have the "In: Notebook" button appear at the bottom of _every_ note to the left of the tags / tags button

- Move the tag editor dialog from, dialog top edge 20px below the top of the window, to, dialog bottom edge 20px above the bottom of the window.

### Both options

- Make the tag behave like "In: Notebook" in that if you click on it it places all notes that share that tag in the note list.

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**Author:** ![dpoulton](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/dpoulton/32/29723_2.png) [@dpoulton](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/dpoulton)\
**Post date:** [23 October 2020 19:38 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/ux-starting-a-new-note-and-tags-area/11899/5 "2020-10-23T19:38:35Z")

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If the "In: Notebook" and tags _were_ combined it may require some styling to present them "unified". Crude mock-up below...

 ![bar_2](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/cozic/original/2X/1/13b2b11d430e8d81fe110b682f7a750158142239.png)

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**Author:** ![tessus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/tessus/32/13_2.png) [@tessus](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/tessus)\
**Post date:** [24 October 2020 06:22 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/ux-starting-a-new-note-and-tags-area/11899/6 "2020-10-24T06:22:08Z")

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> [@petzi53](#):
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> When I create a note and I enter the title it is not possible anymore to start with the text after typing return. One has to move the cursor into the text field with the mouse.

As a workaround you can use the `Tab` key instead. (Tested with 1.3.9. I'm not sure, if that's also the case with 1.2.6.)

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**Author:** ![petzi53](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/petzi53/32/4507_2.png) [@petzi53](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/petzi53)\
**Post date:** [24 October 2020 07:09 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/ux-starting-a-new-note-and-tags-area/11899/7 "2020-10-24T07:09:02Z")

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Thank you! Tab works with 1.2.6 too.

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**Author:** ![msbentley](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/msbentley/32/1219_2.png) [@msbentley](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/msbentley)\
**Post date:** [24 October 2020 07:46 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/ux-starting-a-new-note-and-tags-area/11899/8 "2020-10-24T07:46:59Z")

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Yes, tab works for shifting focus to the note, and for the tags you can at least use the (configurable in the latest versions) shortcut key to bring up the tag selector (I think it's ctrl+alt+t by default in 1.3.9?)

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**Author:** ![benji300](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/benji300/32/5645_2.png) [@benji300](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/benji300)\
**Post date:** [27 October 2020 22:33 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/ux-starting-a-new-note-and-tags-area/11899/9 "2020-10-27T22:33:18Z")

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I would LOVE it if **Option 1** was implemented!!!  
Thanks @dpoulton for this post!

I would even add the navigation buttons to this bar. Then I could make the editor toolbar invisible (since I don't need it), but I wouldn't "lose" the navigation buttons.

Here's a screenshot of what I am meaning:

![navigation-bar](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/cozic/original/2X/b/be0bea32d49f272300552c9228fffa4364fbe0a7.png)