# Persistent Tags (follow-up)

**URL:** <https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/persistent-tags-follow-up/36022>\
**Category:** Support\
**Created:** [21 February 2024 04:09 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/persistent-tags-follow-up/36022 "2024-02-21T04:09:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![mmmaak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/mmmaak/32/18385_2.png) [@mmmaak](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/mmmaak)\
**Post date:** [21 February 2024 04:09 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/persistent-tags-follow-up/36022/1 "2024-02-21T04:09:19Z")

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### Operating system

Android

### Joplin version

2.13.10

### Editor

Markdown Editor

### What issue do you have?

I've been monitoring this issue for about 4 months, and have noticed another bug that may or may not be related.

When creating notes in chronological order, say Note 1 and Note 2, the tags sometimes go missing or get mixed up.

So for example,

Note 1  
Tags: a1, b1, c1

Note 2  
Tags: a2, b2, c2

After checking back later, something similar to this often happens:

Note 1  
Tags: none

Note 2  
Tags: a1, b1, c1

Edit: Sure enough, after saving this thread URL to Joplin and tagging it, all the tags disappeared!

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**Author:** ![Medullitus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/medullitus/32/19316_2.png) [@Medullitus](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Medullitus)\
**Post date:** [21 February 2024 12:08 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/persistent-tags-follow-up/36022/2 "2024-02-21T12:08:09Z")

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Hello. I use about 300 tags, and the tag system in Joplin is one of my favorite features. I organize my notes in alphabetical order, and I don't remember having such a problem.

Is there a change in the number of tags? For example, if there should be 20 notes in the a1 tag, is this number decreasing to 10?

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**Author:** ![mmmaak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/mmmaak/32/18385_2.png) [@mmmaak](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/mmmaak)\
**Post date:** [21 February 2024 20:56 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/persistent-tags-follow-up/36022/3 "2024-02-21T20:56:24Z")

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300 tags! 😯

What system do you use to organise that many?

> Is there a change in the number of tags?...

Is there a way to view how many notes are associated with a given tag?

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**Author:** ![Medullitus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/medullitus/32/19316_2.png) [@Medullitus](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Medullitus)\
**Post date:** [21 February 2024 21:31 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/persistent-tags-follow-up/36022/4 "2024-02-21T21:31:52Z")

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Yes, I use Joplin not only as a note-taking application but also to create an internet ecosystem. Having a large number of tags doesn't affect the system. After all, it's a straightforward system.

There should be a number next to the tags indicating the count. If you want, you can try the Remoods theme plugin. I use it, and I am very satisfied. Details are available in the Remoods theme thread on the forum.

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**Author:** ![mmmaak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/mmmaak/32/18385_2.png) [@mmmaak](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/mmmaak)\
**Post date:** [22 February 2024 00:42 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/persistent-tags-follow-up/36022/5 "2024-02-22T00:42:09Z")

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I know, but I'd certainly be inundated with 300 tags and not a good system to organise them! 😂

Am new to Joplin, and will try to see if I can figure out the plugin for Android. Thanks!

I've been hopping around at least 5 different note-taking apps ever since the unfortunate demise of Evernote a couple of years ago.

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**Author:** ![Medullitus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/medullitus/32/19316_2.png) [@Medullitus](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Medullitus)\
**Post date:** [22 February 2024 01:05 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/persistent-tags-follow-up/36022/6 "2024-02-22T01:05:06Z")

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Having 300 tags doesn't mean they have to be disconnected. For instance, you can have around 50 tags related to nature, like #nature, #nature: animals, #nature: plants, #nature: landscapes, and so on. The important thing is not the number but how you organize them.

Unfortunately, the plugins currently support only the PC version. If you want, you can open a feature request for this. But currently, the mobile version is a bit more limited compared to the PC version. For example, you can't edit tag names on mobile.

In my opinion, Joplin is the best note-taking application. Once you get used to it, I don't think you'll look for other apps. However, you should give yourself some time to learn it and use the forum when needed.

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**Author:** ![mmmaak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/mmmaak/32/18385_2.png) [@mmmaak](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/mmmaak)\
**Post date:** [27 February 2024 01:42 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/persistent-tags-follow-up/36022/7 "2024-02-27T01:42:40Z")

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I agree it's currently the best. Especially having tried at least 4 others, after the train wreck that was Evernote 😂

But the tag feature on Android is really buggy for me. Besides the issue of persistent tags, I also occasionally have _all_ tags go missing from a given note, or swapped between different notes as mentioned earlier.

I wonder if they are related issues.

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**Author:** ![Medullitus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/medullitus/32/19316_2.png) [@Medullitus](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Medullitus)\
**Post date:** [27 February 2024 01:48 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/persistent-tags-follow-up/36022/8 "2024-02-27T01:48:22Z")

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I can suggest checking the synchronization in both the Android and PC applications or deleting and reinstalling both applications. It would be great if there were a video recording or log file.

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**Author:** ![mmmaak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/mmmaak/32/18385_2.png) [@mmmaak](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/mmmaak)\
**Post date:** [27 February 2024 02:03 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/persistent-tags-follow-up/36022/9 "2024-02-27T02:03:04Z")

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I don't have a video recording as of now. Will try to get a screenshot the next time it happens. But here's the log file (sorry, couldn't find the attachment icon for this forum).

[Joplin log file (Android)](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uC0R8DLfE1mvFIBK6RHIVsW99iagpO4t/view?usp=drivesdk)

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**Author:** ![Medullitus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/medullitus/32/19316_2.png) [@Medullitus](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Medullitus)\
**Post date:** [27 February 2024 02:36 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/persistent-tags-follow-up/36022/10 "2024-02-27T02:36:20Z")

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Getting the log file was great. From now on, it's in the hands of the top developers then. Maybe @muzak can help

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**Author:** ![Medullitus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/medullitus/32/19316_2.png) [@Medullitus](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Medullitus)\
**Post date:** [3 March 2024 14:59 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/persistent-tags-follow-up/36022/11 "2024-03-03T14:59:14Z")

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Hello. I started experiencing this issue as well. I would appreciate your contribution to the topic I opened.

> [@The tag added Joplin application appears differently in the desktop Joplin application](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/the-tag-added-joplin-application-appears-differently-in-the-desktop-joplin-application/36425):
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> Operating system Windows Joplin version 2.14.17 Desktop version info Joplin 2.14.17 (prod, win32) İstemci ID: 2a7576b949b04f8fa45d838d9d98a133 Yeni sürüm: 3 Profil sürümü: 46 Keychain Desteği: Evet Sürüm: 094175c Agenda: 3.7.1 Backup: 1.4.0 Bible Quote: 2.1.0 Inline tags: 1.2.1 Kminder Mindmap: 0.8.6 Markmap: 1.6.0 Note Rename: 1.0.0 Note Tabs: 1.4.0 OCR: 0.3.2 Quick HTML tags: 0.2.0 Quick Links: 1.3.0 Random Note Reloaded: 1.0.4 ReMoods Theme: 4.6.4 Spoilers: 1.0.6 Text Co…

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/cozic/original/3X/1/c/1c948e33314e232a0927789508474d8624f4270b.png) [@system](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [2 April 2024 14:59 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/persistent-tags-follow-up/36022/12 "2024-04-02T14:59:32Z")

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