# Paragraph spacing vs Line Spacing

**URL:** <https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/paragraph-spacing-vs-line-spacing/34296>\
**Category:** Support\
**Created:** [11 December 2023 16:52 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/paragraph-spacing-vs-line-spacing/34296 "2023-12-11T16:52:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![djkokiong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@djkokiong](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/djkokiong)\
**Post date:** [11 December 2023 16:52 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/paragraph-spacing-vs-line-spacing/34296/1 "2023-12-11T16:52:25Z")

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### Operating system

Windows

### Joplin version

2.13.8

### What issue do you have?

When I create new notes, using Shift-Enter for same paragraph, and Enter for new paragraphs, the formatting isn't saved. Instead, everything is saved as though I entered a new paragraph for every single line.

Can I fix this? Is there a setting somewhere I need to specify?  
The formatting is driving me crazy... (I can import files correctly, but it doesn't work with manually-entered ones.

### Screenshots

 ![What I typed-1.png](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/cozic/original/3X/3/3/33b6313d1244a33251035b6187345ea9573c81e0.png)

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**Author:** ![personalizedrefriger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/personalizedrefriger/32/13210_2.png) [@personalizedrefriger](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/personalizedrefriger)\
**Post date:** [11 December 2023 17:50 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/paragraph-spacing-vs-line-spacing/34296/2 "2023-12-11T17:50:13Z")

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From the screenshot, it looks like you might be using plugins. Does it work if you disable them?

(The information from `Help` \> `About` might be useful in debugging this!)

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**Author:** ![djkokiong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@djkokiong](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/djkokiong)\
**Post date:** [11 December 2023 18:41 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/paragraph-spacing-vs-line-spacing/34296/3 "2023-12-11T18:41:52Z")

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I literally installed Joplin yesterday  
Are there default plugins that get installed?  
The only thing I did was change it to dark theme

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**Author:** ![personalizedrefriger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/personalizedrefriger/32/13210_2.png) [@personalizedrefriger](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/personalizedrefriger)\
**Post date:** [11 December 2023 19:02 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/paragraph-spacing-vs-line-spacing/34296/4 "2023-12-11T19:02:05Z")

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> Are there default plugins that get installed?

No. Sorry! I confused the time icon (in the screenshot ![screenshot](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/cozic/original/3X/b/6/b67a4b214caa424420ca09dff422e190048ceea6.png)) for a plugin icon.

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I can reproduce this, if I

1. Create a new note
2. Focus the note body
3. Press enter
4. Then typing. For example,
  1. Type (using shift-enter to create a new line)
  2. Type (using enter to create a new paragraph)
  3. Type (using shift-enter to create a new line)

If I instead type _before_ pressing enter in a new note, it seems to work.

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**Author:** ![djkokiong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@djkokiong](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/djkokiong)\
**Post date:** [11 December 2023 19:09 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/paragraph-spacing-vs-line-spacing/34296/5 "2023-12-11T19:09:23Z")

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So I do that, and then  
5. I switch out of the note to another one and then  
6. Switch back into the note

Same issue.

(I have to do redo the spacing a second time, and then it stays).

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**Author:** ![djkokiong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@djkokiong](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/djkokiong)\
**Post date:** [13 December 2023 16:57 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/paragraph-spacing-vs-line-spacing/34296/6 "2023-12-13T16:57:57Z")

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Update (Dec. 13, 2023): This is _still_ happening.  
Every time I create a new note, I use Shift-Enter to create a new line.  
When I switch out of that note, and then go back into it, the Shift-Enter became a new paragraph.

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**Author:** ![personalizedrefriger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/personalizedrefriger/32/13210_2.png) [@personalizedrefriger](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/personalizedrefriger)\
**Post date:** [13 December 2023 17:03 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/paragraph-spacing-vs-line-spacing/34296/7 "2023-12-13T17:03:01Z")

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> Every time I create a new note, I use Shift-Enter to create a new line.

Are you creating a new line just after creating a new note?

If so, try typing something before pressing enter or shift-enter. (For me, the bug only happens when I press enter just after creating a note).

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**Author:** ![djkokiong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@djkokiong](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/djkokiong)\
**Post date:** [15 December 2023 00:54 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/paragraph-spacing-vs-line-spacing/34296/8 "2023-12-15T00:54:49Z")

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It happens throughout my entire text.  
I use Joplin as a journal and put in paragraphs and normal line breaks.

When I finish writing my entry (about 40-50 sentences), _every single line_ shows up as a different paragraph, whether it was shift-enter or enter.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/cozic/original/3X/1/c/1c948e33314e232a0927789508474d8624f4270b.png) [@system](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [14 January 2024 00:54 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/paragraph-spacing-vs-line-spacing/34296/9 "2024-01-14T00:54:51Z")

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Closed on 14 January 2024 00:54 UTC

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