# Joplin Server? **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [31 May 2025 19:32 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-server/45654 "2025-05-31T19:32:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![antiager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@antiager](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/antiager)\ **Post date:** [31 May 2025 19:32 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-server/45654/1 "2025-05-31T19:32:55Z")
### Operating system Linux ### Joplin version 2.13.2 ### What issue do you have? Hi People! I am planning to switch from evernote to joplin. I am a little confused about the joplin server. Is out of beta state now? Is there a reliable install how to (not for docker) for debian? Thank you for your tips! ---
**Author:** ![Scorps1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Scorps1](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Scorps1)\ **Post date:** [1 June 2025 21:20 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-server/45654/2 "2025-06-01T21:20:33Z")
Welcome to the club! Unfortunately I can't answer your question as I don't use Joplin Cloud (I use Onedrive for sync) but wanted to welcome you as a fellow former Evernote user. Importing notes was less painful than I thought it would be and I like how Joplin just does what it is supposed to do. It isn't fancy but it doesn't need to be. ---
**Author:** ![Wimvan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/wimvan/32/12536_2.png) [@Wimvan](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Wimvan)\ **Post date:** [2 June 2025 03:13 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-server/45654/3 "2025-06-02T03:13:39Z")
Please be aware that [Joplin Cloud](https://joplinapp.org/plans/) and [Joplin Server.](https://joplinapp.org/de/help/about/changelog/server/) are not the same. ---
**Author:** ![antiager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@antiager](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/antiager)\ **Post date:** [2 June 2025 10:13 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-server/45654/4 "2025-06-02T10:13:06Z")
Yes of course they are not the same! It seems very few people are using the joplin server. I wonder why? ---
**Author:** ![Marph](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/marph/32/10800_2.png) [@Marph](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Marph)\ **Post date:** [2 June 2025 10:58 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-server/45654/5 "2025-06-02T10:58:22Z")
> [@antiager](#): > > It seems very few people are using the joplin server. > > I wonder why? What is your basis for this assumption? I'm using Joplin server (in a docker). ---
**Author:** ![tomasz86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/96bed5/32.png) [@tomasz86](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/tomasz86)\ **Post date:** [2 June 2025 12:04 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-server/45654/6 "2025-06-02T12:04:25Z")
> [@antiager](#): > > Yes of course they are not the same! > > It seems very few people are using the joplin server. > > I wonder why? In general, not many people are capable of setting up their own server 🙂. Also, Joplin Server is limited to non-commercial, personal use only. ---
**Author:** ![joplin\_user](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/977dab/32.png) [@joplin\_user](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/joplin_user)\ **Post date:** [2 June 2025 12:20 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-server/45654/7 "2025-06-02T12:20:38Z")
There is minimal documentation on the website around Joplin server. You really have to dig to identify that it exists as a solution. I took a few minutes and don’t immediately see the installation guide on the website. It’s tough to drive adoption when there isn’t much visibility into the solution. ---
**Author:** ![antiager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@antiager](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/antiager)\ **Post date:** [2 June 2025 13:19 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-server/45654/8 "2025-06-02T13:19:12Z")
After all I heard until yet. Using a joplin server and keeping it up to date doesn't look so promising. Am i right? ---
**Author:** ![laurent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@laurent](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/laurent)\ **Post date:** [2 June 2025 16:06 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-server/45654/9 "2025-06-02T16:06:42Z")
The Docker image has been downloaded over 5 million times so probably more than a few people are using it. Keeping it up to date usually is trivial - you just bump the version number then docker stop / docker start ---
**Author:** ![isdnfan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/isdnfan/32/15418_2.png) [@isdnfan](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/isdnfan)\ **Post date:** [6 June 2025 14:20 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-server/45654/10 "2025-06-06T14:20:06Z")
I'm running the server since ages and didn't saw big issues so far. Updates a _usually_ easy but once I took me an hour to understand, find and fix [Experience and upgrade hints for Server upgrade to 2.14.2-beta](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/experience-and-upgrade-hints-for-server-upgrade-to-2-14-2-beta/36743) I have it integrated with my traefik reverse proxy so it's exposed publicly with proper TLS cert. [Setup is easy](https://github.com/laurent22/joplin/blob/dev/packages/server/README.md) if you are not bloody beginner with docker. The only big shortcoming remains [SSO integration](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/open-to-pr-for-joplin-server-sso-support/22289). LDAP was added shortly but - I hope more modern OpenIdConnect will follow soon. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/cozic/original/3X/1/c/1c948e33314e232a0927789508474d8624f4270b.png) [@system](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [6 July 2025 14:20 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-server/45654/11 "2025-07-06T14:20:35Z")
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