# Joplin never starts

**URL:** <https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-never-starts/35083>\
**Category:** Support\
**Created:** [9 January 2024 16:39 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-never-starts/35083 "2024-01-09T16:39:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![watrworld](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/watrworld/32/19786_2.png) [@watrworld](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/watrworld)\
**Post date:** [9 January 2024 16:39 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-never-starts/35083/1 "2024-01-09T16:39:23Z")

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### Operating system

Windows

### Joplin version

2.13.13

### Desktop version info

desktop 2.13.13

### What issue do you have?

I use Joplin on a few computers and love the sync to DropBox.

On one computer that I wanted to install it, it starts, never show a desktop or tray icon. However I see its processes in task manager.

I have tried both the portable and setup version. This is on Windows 10, 32-bit. Could it be because of that?

I am not sure where to look. Thanks

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**Author:** ![JackGruber](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/jackgruber/32/3231_2.png) [@JackGruber](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/JackGruber)\
**Post date:** [9 January 2024 17:14 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-never-starts/35083/2 "2024-01-09T17:14:16Z")

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> [@watrworld](#):
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> Windows 10, 32-bit

Realy on 32 bit?

> <https://github.com/laurent22/joplin/issues/4649>
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> I'm aware that Windows7 is end of life and probably not supported anymore, but I… have no saying in this, I have it at work.
> 
> I installed a normal version for one user, which didn't require admin access, great. Launching joplin doesn't do anything visible, but it spawns 4 joplin.exe processes in the background. Launching it again opens an empty window, with basic, but also empty menu (File-Exit, and so on, nothing actionable). This window is not possible to close (titlebar button UI doesn't react), it has to be force closed with task manager.
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> I tried portable version. Launching exe causes 4 joplin.exe process to show up plus joplinportable.exe and again, no window. Launching it again, shows second joplinportable.exe and empty window as shown above, that again is not possible to close by usual means.
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> There is no error messages or anything suggesting what to do. Computer was restarted after joplin installation.
> 
> Linux version works like a charm, but Windows counterpart failed a big time :(. Without full multi-system support, the whole app usage is in question. There is no browser access to my notes so basically I have no notes at work.

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**Author:** ![tomasz86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/96bed5/32.png) [@tomasz86](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/tomasz86)\
**Post date:** [9 January 2024 18:31 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-never-starts/35083/3 "2024-01-09T18:31:12Z")

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As the GitHub issue states, Joplin has been broken on Windows 32-bit for a very long time. Until recently, you were still able to make it run by doing some hackery (as described in detail in the issue), however as of today, it doesn't seem possible to make Joplin v2.13 and newer work, at least not by user-side hacks.

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**Author:** ![watrworld](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/watrworld/32/19786_2.png) [@watrworld](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/watrworld)\
**Post date:** [10 January 2024 13:38 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-never-starts/35083/4 "2024-01-10T13:38:50Z")

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Ok, thanks, well, couldnt the installer block the install if its not longer working in 32bit? Other apps installer do this.

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**Author:** ![tomasz86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/96bed5/32.png) [@tomasz86](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/tomasz86)\
**Post date:** [11 January 2024 04:27 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-never-starts/35083/5 "2024-01-11T04:27:35Z")

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I suppose the 32-bit compatibility is still desired, thus the GitHub issue is also still open. I've got one 32-bit system myself where I'd like to keep the newest version of Joplin running, so I may try to look into the code myself (although with rather basic skills), however I can't say when this will happen due to major time constraints right now 😕.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/cozic/original/3X/1/c/1c948e33314e232a0927789508474d8624f4270b.png) [@system](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [10 February 2024 04:28 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/joplin-never-starts/35083/6 "2024-02-10T04:28:17Z")

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