Drawing with a pen

mforbes · 2023-10-22T03:16:41.878Z

CoCalc Whiteboard

Just an FYI: The open-source online platform CoCalc has implemented a Computational Whiteboard that works in the browser. They have done a lot of thinking about how to do this in terms of storing the vector information, pen input, etc.

This got me thinking about being able to Draw figures in the editor as well as annotating.

Note: The CoCalc team is very responsive and would likely be very willing to chat and share ideas. (I don't yet understand exactly what they have done under the hood, but part of their design allows for keeping a history.)

The CoCalc Markdown editor looks very similar to Joplin with the added feature of being able to include executable code. It would be very cool if both evolved similarly so one could use Joplin as a local version. (I am very new to Joplin, so perhaps this is discussed elsewhere.)

Update: I just tried the js-draw plugin on my Mac, and it gets pretty close to what want. Sorry for bumping: I did not realize this was implemented a year ago!

justonemorejoplinfan · 2023-10-29T19:08:44.043Z

Nice, there have been updates regarding stylus support on Android: github dot com/laurent22/joplin/issues/582#issuecomment-1727290244

There is a pre-release that works perfectly already... I hope, there will be a finally be an official release, because this feature is awesome.

zblesk · 2023-10-30T11:02:53.490Z

Welcome, @justonemorejoplinfan .
I assume you can't post links because you're new here; and I can't edit your post
So for the convenience of everyone else, here is the same link, but clickable:

github.com/laurent22/joplin

Enhancement: Android stylus support

opened 07:00PM - 31 May 18 UTC

closed 02:15PM - 02 Oct 23 UTC

Fmstrat

enhancement backlog

### Operating system - Android ### Application - Mobile Consider support… for stylus based notes, perhaps just plugging in https://github.com/oceanbrasil/ocean-services-pen-full or https://github.com/ayltai/Android-Lib-Pen

Thanks for digging it up!

gansuxin · 2023-11-01T08:33:44.462Z

joplin doesn't support pen input. I hope to get this feature, it's useful.
OneNote, Evernote, Google Keep, Notability, Goodnotes, Xournal++, and Squid support pen input and works well with wacom, ipad.

Wladefant · 2023-11-24T10:49:23.011Z

what do you mean. It works perfectly well on desktop and mobile. And it is especially created for pen support, though without pen buttons support unfortunately

justonemorejoplinfan · 2023-11-27T16:58:34.284Z

The drawing feature was "secretly" released a few days ago!

SoccerNerd · 2023-12-04T21:05:12.257Z

What platforms? Not seeing on the latest release for iPad

danielw2904 · 2023-12-04T22:39:42.955Z

It’s not out yet on iOS. It’ll be in 2.13 What's new in Joplin 2.13

laurent · 2023-12-05T20:56:55.343Z

It's released now and will be in the store as soon as Apple approves it

retorix · 2023-12-06T08:38:29.133Z

Is there a solution for windows? Using the pen directly in Joplin?

danielw2904 · 2023-12-06T20:54:21.809Z

To use handwriting? I think on PC you have to install the plugin manually

Wladefant · 2023-12-09T15:03:23.615Z

correct just install the plugin and you are good to go with the same functionality and same everything

SoccerNerd · 2023-12-11T19:09:45.338Z

App Store currently shows 12.12.3, what version will have pen support?

personalizedrefriger · 2023-12-13T23:08:35.607Z

On iOS, 12.13.10 should have drawing support. (It should also be available in the AppStore now!)

SoccerNerd · 2023-12-13T23:35:09.172Z

Awesome, trying it now

franzperdido · 2024-01-11T08:45:51.515Z

Hey guys, thanks for the plugin. I've been playing around with it and while it works mostly fine, there is one thing that bugs me: When using the eraser, I want to be able to remove only parts of the lines I've drawn and not the entire line object. This is the standard behavior in other apps such as Xournal++ or RNote. Hope that this is not too big of an issue to implement.

franzperdido · 2024-01-11T15:33:54.553Z

Another thing that I noticed: When I'm drawing and then open settings, all unsaved changes are lost. This is unfortunate since I've lost quite some work. I'd suggest either raising a warning with a promt to save (or discard changes), or some autosave feature.

franzperdido · 2024-01-11T15:40:32.961Z

Also, also (sorry for the spam).

I'm using @CalebJohn's amazing Rich Markdown Plugin. Here, a preview is shown (which is nice), but I don't know how to edit the file. I currently switch to the regular view, then an edit button appears. However, the preview is not updated when changes are saved.

personalizedrefriger · 2024-01-11T15:50:53.894Z

When I'm drawing and then open settings, all unsaved changes are lost.

This seems to happen with other plugins that display dialogs.

I've opened a Joplin bug report:

github.com/laurent22/joplin

Plugins: Dialogs reset after opening, then closing settings

opened 03:59PM - 11 Jan 24 UTC

personalizedrefrigerator

bug

### Operating system Linux ### Joplin version 2.13.13 ### Desktop version in…fo Joplin 2.13.13 (prod, linux) Client ID: 24b2a961cccf40fe8448cdc0930b6fce Sync Version: 3 Profile Version: 44 Keychain Supported: No Revision: c3cdeeb31 Custom CodeMirror .vimrc: 1.0.5 Freehand Drawing: 2.7.1 RevealJS Integration: 0.6.1 Simple Backup: 1.3.4 Work tracker: 0.0.1 ### Current behaviour 1. Install the "Freehand Drawing" plugin 2. Open the drawing dialog 3. Draw something 4. Open settings 5. Close settings The dialog reloads and what was just drawn is lost. ### Expected behaviour Either: - There should be a way to hide the application toolbar from a plugin (to make it more difficult to open settings while a dialog is open) - A blockable event should be sent to a plugin just before changing views — in this case the plugin could save the drawing or show a confirmation dialog. - The dialog should remain open after switching to the settings screen. ### Logs _No response_

franzperdido:

This is unfortunate since I've lost quite some work.

Depending on whether or not the plugin has tried to create a second autosave, this may help: Restoring from an autosave

franzperdido:

Hey guys, thanks for the plugin. I've been playing around with it and while it works mostly fine, there is one thing that bugs me: When using the eraser, I want to be able to remove only parts of the lines I've drawn and not the entire line object. This is the standard behavior in other apps such as Xournal++ or RNote. Hope that this is not too big of an issue to implement.

It's planned :).

franzperdido:

I'm using @CalebJohn's amazing Rich Markdown Plugin. Here, a preview is shown (which is nice), but I don't know how to edit the file. I currently switch to the regular view, then an edit button appears. However, the preview is not updated when changes are saved.

Select the ID for the drawing, then click the "draw" button.

See How do I edit drawings from the viewer?

franzperdido · 2024-01-11T16:56:18.730Z

personalizedrefriger:

I've opened a Joplin bug report:

Thanks!

personalizedrefriger:

Depending on whether or not the plugin has tried to create a second autosave, this may help: Restoring from an autosave

Good to know!

personalizedrefriger:

See How do I edit drawings from the viewer?

Ah, I remember that I had read it before but could not find it. But I only searched in the forum, I forgot there was already full documentation.

In any case, thanks again for your support and the cool Plugin!