# 2024-06-14 - A closer look at a new conflict

**URL:** <https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600>\
**Category:** Support\
**Created:** [14 June 2024 17:38 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600 "2024-06-14T17:38:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [14 June 2024 17:38 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/1 "2024-06-14T17:38:22Z")

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### Operating system

Android

### Joplin version

2.14.9

### Desktop version info

Joplin 2.14.22 (prod, win32)

Client-ID: c5213521ab8148f6a62f5f728496c793  
Sync-Version: 3  
Profil-Version: 46  
Unterstützter Schlüsselbund: Ja

Revision: e579eb9

Backup: 1.4.1  
Conflict Resolution: 1.2.3

### Sync target

Joplin Cloud

### What issue do you have?

This is forked from [2024-04-29 - Problems synchronising with the Android app and the Joplin Cloud - #25 by Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-04-29-problems-synchronising-with-the-android-app-and-the-joplin-cloud/37853/25)

At around 5 p.m., I created a new note using the Windows app and inserted two screenshots and a Markdown link one after the other.

At around 6:30 p.m. I found a  
\>\>\>  
Konflikt beim Anhang: „Screenshot\_20240614\_171005\_Firefox.jpg“  
\<\<\<  
in my Android app and later also in my Windows app.

At that point in time, the note in the Windows app still looked as it had been created and as desired.  
In the Android app, the hourglass symbols were already shown for the two screenshots.

The analysis revealed the following details

Notiz:  
Win: [Pistorius](:/6ee09dd8b2e840268fb74e7224ba033f)  
And: [Pistorius](:/6ee09dd8b2e840268fb74e7224ba033f)

Picture 1:  
Win 18:45: ![69c27e47-2bfa-4c7c-b441-1f472b411f19\_w488\_r0.7142\_fpx55\_fpy40.7.webp](:/149fbe2a893e4056a66d956387f7706f)  
And: ![69c27e47-2bfa-4c7c-b441-1f472b411f19\_w488\_r0.7142\_fpx55\_fpy40.7.webp](:/a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9)  
Win 19:15 : ![69c27e47-2bfa-4c7c-b441-1f472b411f19\_w488\_r0.7142\_fpx55\_fpy40.7.webp](:/a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9)

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [14 June 2024 17:48 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/2 "2024-06-14T17:48:05Z")

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The first screenshot looked as expected on Windows with

```auto
(:/149fbe2a893e4056a66d956387f7706f)

```

was changed to

```auto
(:/a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9)

```

on Android and displayed with the hourglass icon

and - helas - synced back to the note in Windows with

```auto
(:/a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9)

```

as well, and is also represented by the hourglass.

Actually, both the Win note and the Android note are broken and show hourglasses instead of screenshots.

Edit 1:  
I've now installed the Joplin debug tool. Here is the Windows representation of the actual broken note.

 ![Screenshot 2024-06-14 195928](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/cozic/original/3X/d/4/d4fc8dd3d6cfd63a9cb03e71af554d4a23645c1d.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [14 June 2024 17:51 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/3 "2024-06-14T17:51:38Z")

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Why is that, and who can do what exactly to solve this conflict so that the note looks the way it should in both applications?

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**Author:** ![personalizedrefriger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/personalizedrefriger/32/13210_2.png) [@personalizedrefriger](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/personalizedrefriger)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 14:43 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/4 "2024-06-17T14:43:40Z")

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Thank you for looking into this!

**More information that could be helpful** :

- What happens if you click the "..." to the right of `resources`? (This should show the list of resources Joplin thinks is associated with the note).

- If there's nothing in that list, try switching to the markdown editor, copying the ID of the "downloading" resource, and pasting it into the note info plugin (if you would like help with this, please let me know!). This could help determine whether 1) the resource's metadata is present locally or if 2) the resource is completely missing.

- **Edit** : Something else that could be helpful to know: Does replacing `a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9` with `149fbe2a893e4056a66d956387f7706f` in the markdown editor show the resource (or still show a "downloading" icon)?

**Edit 2** : Updated formatting.

> [@Coffee](#):
>
> he first screenshot looked as expected on Windows with
> 
> ```auto
> (:/149fbe2a893e4056a66d956387f7706f)
> 
> ```
> 
> was changed to
> 
> ```auto
> (:/a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9)
> 
> ```
> 
> on Android and displayed with the hourglass icon
> 
> and - helas - synced back to the note in Windows with
> 
> ```auto
> (:/a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9)
> 
> ```
> 
> as well, and is also represented by the hourglass.

Interesting... Does navigating to `149fbe2a893e4056a66d956387f7706f` with the note info plugin return anything? Does navigating to `a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9`?

Internally, the Rich Text Editor converts from markdown to HTML, then back to markdown. I wonder if this could be related?

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 19:41 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/5 "2024-06-17T19:41:17Z")

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> [@personalizedrefriger](#):
>
> What happens if you click the "..." to the right of `resources`? (This should show the list of resources Joplin thinks is associated with the note).

"..." shows nothing - it just disappears when I click on it  
 ![Screenshot 2024-06-17 213818](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/cozic/original/3X/4/d/4dd23a89e4c766cf49a1805663d0c6f4ff066fb2.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 19:45 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/6 "2024-06-17T19:45:21Z")

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> [@personalizedrefriger](#):
>
> If there's nothing in that list, try switching to the markdown editor, copying the ID of the "downloading" resource

`![69c27e47-2bfa-4c7c-b441-1f472b411f19_w488_r0.7142_fpx55_fpy40.7.webp](:/23754f77d42e42e5bf9cb06a5397a5d9)`

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 19:46 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/7 "2024-06-17T19:46:46Z")

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> [@Coffee](#):
>
> 23754f77d42e42e5bf9cb06a5397a5d9

![Screenshot 2024-06-17 214627](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/cozic/original/3X/5/8/5802f5338616ba24e86f0b76d0d625de95fb3f89.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 19:48 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/8 "2024-06-17T19:48:28Z")

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> [@personalizedrefriger](#):
>
> **Edit** : Something else that could be helpful to know: Does replacing `a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9` with `149fbe2a893e4056a66d956387f7706f` in the markdown editor show the resource (or still show a "downloading" icon)?

Windows Mardown at 2024-06-17 - 21:52:

```auto
![69c27e47-2bfa-4c7c-b441-1f472b411f19_w488_r0.7142_fpx55_fpy40.7.webp](:/23754f77d42e42e5bf9cb06a5397a5d9)

Boris Ludwig Pistorius (* 14. März 1960 in Osnabrück) ist ein deutscher Politiker (SPD). Er ist seit dem 19. Januar 2023 Bundesminister der Verteidigung der Bundesrepublik Deutschland. 

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Pistorius

2024-06-14 - [SPD-Frust über Olaf Scholz: Der Drinnenolaf und der Draußenscholz - DER SPIEGEL](:/024ab1bab9e34f1fb22d19cf5b1dd1a9)
![Screenshot_20240614_171005_Firefox.jpg](:/da92a5a2f72b4a99aa5bfbf3d01a6f18)

```

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 19:54 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/9 "2024-06-17T19:54:38Z")

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> [@personalizedrefriger](#):
>
> Does replacing `a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9`

No more ID

```auto
a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9

```

today. Either I was wrong last time, or we have a moving target.

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 20:01 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/10 "2024-06-17T20:01:32Z")

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> [@Coffee](#):
>
> No more ID
> 
> ```auto
> a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9
> 
> ```
> 
> today. Either I was wrong last time, or we have a moving target.

Wait a moment ...  
2024-06-14 - I wrote:

```auto
Picture 1:
Win 18:45: ![69c27e47-2bfa-4c7c-b441-1f472b411f19_w488_r0.7142_fpx55_fpy40.7.webp](:/149fbe2a893e4056a66d956387f7706f)
And: ![69c27e47-2bfa-4c7c-b441-1f472b411f19_w488_r0.7142_fpx55_fpy40.7.webp](:/a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9)
Win 19:15 : ![69c27e47-2bfa-4c7c-b441-1f472b411f19_w488_r0.7142_fpx55_fpy40.7.webp](:/a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9)

```

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 20:07 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/11 "2024-06-17T20:07:40Z")

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> [@Coffee](#):
>
> 2024-06-14 - I wrote:

2024-06-15 - I deletet my related Android Profile and synced in a new one.

> [@2024-04-29 - Problems synchronising with the Android app and the Joplin Cloud](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-04-29-problems-synchronising-with-the-android-app-and-the-joplin-cloud/37853/27):
>
> Even after running just two apps and waiting a very long time to see if they were fully synced, I still couldn't get the notes to stabilise. That's why I decided to take another drastic step: I deleted my main profile in my Android app and started from scratch with the synchronisation from the Joplin cloud. After more than 24 hours, no further synchronisation progress was visible in the Android app. However, the synchronisation status has since shown a fairly constant number of around 5500 at…

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 20:10 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/12 "2024-06-17T20:10:17Z")

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> [@Coffee](#):
>
> Windows Mardown at 2024-06-17 - 21:52

Android Markdown at 2024-06-17 - 22:30

```auto
![69c27e47-2bfa-4c7c-b441-1f472b411f19_w488_r0.7142_fpx55_fpy40.7.webp](:/23754f77d42e42e5bf9cb06a5397a5d9)

Boris Ludwig Pistorius (* 14. März 1960 in Osnabrück) ist ein deutscher Politiker (SPD). Er ist seit dem 19. Januar 2023 Bundesminister der Verteidigung der Bundesrepublik Deutschland. 

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Pistorius

2024-06-14 - [SPD-Frust über Olaf Scholz: Der Drinnenolaf und der Draußenscholz - DER SPIEGEL](:/024ab1bab9e34f1fb22d19cf5b1dd1a9)
![Screenshot_20240614_171005_Firefox.jpg](:/da92a5a2f72b4a99aa5bfbf3d01a6f18)

```

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 20:13 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/13 "2024-06-17T20:13:13Z")

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Hence your request

> [@personalizedrefriger](#):
>
> **Edit** : Something else that could be helpful to know: Does replacing `a974f1c050dc443d88546e993af940c9` with `149fbe2a893e4056a66d956387f7706f` in the markdown editor show the resource (or still show a "downloading" icon)?

could be translated to

> [@](#):
>
> **Edit** : Something else that could be helpful to know: Does replacing `23754f77d42e42e5bf9cb06a5397a5d9` with `149fbe2a893e4056a66d956387f7706f` in the markdown editor show the resource (or still show a "downloading" icon)?

---

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 20:15 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/14 "2024-06-17T20:15:12Z")

</div>

**Bingo!**

Yes, it does show the resource.

 ![Screenshot 2024-06-17 221422](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/cozic/original/3X/7/0/70bdbbd5e32593a951c96d4e4b8e1b4791bd05c6.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 20:21 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/15 "2024-06-17T20:21:14Z")

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Hope this helps

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**Post date:** [17 June 2024 20:25 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/16 "2024-06-17T20:25:26Z")

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> [@personalizedrefriger](#):
>
> What happens if you click the "..." to the right of `resources`? (This should show the list of resources Joplin thinks is associated with the note).

NOW the "..." shows the resource

![Screenshot 2024-06-17 222247](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/cozic/original/3X/a/d/ad5a09cb589b504a46576b8daed59a1dcb32d156.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 20:26 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/17 "2024-06-17T20:26:22Z")

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> [@Coffee](#):
>
> NOW the "..." shows the resource

When I click on that resource I get  
x

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 20:31 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/18 "2024-06-17T20:31:22Z")

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**Cool!**

When I click on the "..." after "notes" I get the ID of the note and I get the details of the note.

I guess "..." is a very good thing in your plugin 😉

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 20:38 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/19 "2024-06-17T20:38:43Z")

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> [@Coffee](#):
>
> Android Markdown at 2024-06-17 - 22:30
> 
> `![69c27e47-2bfa-4c7c-b441-1f472b411f19_w488_r0.7142_fpx55_fpy40.7.webp](:/23754f77d42e42e5bf9cb06a5397a5d9)`

Android Markdown at 2024-06-17 - 22:37

```auto
![69c27e47-2bfa-4c7c-b441-1f472b411f19_w488_r0.7142_fpx55_fpy40.7.webp](:/82e46f13f25a42df990b70de7367e854)

2024-06-17 - 22:10 - I manually changed the content as described at https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/13?u=coffee

Boris Ludwig Pistorius (* 14. März 1960 in Osnabrück) ist ein deutscher Politiker (SPD). Er ist seit dem 19. Januar 2023 Bundesminister der Verteidigung der Bundesrepublik Deutschland. 

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Pistorius

2024-06-14 - [SPD-Frust über Olaf Scholz: Der Drinnenolaf und der Draußenscholz - DER SPIEGEL](:/024ab1bab9e34f1fb22d19cf5b1dd1a9)
![Screenshot_20240614_171005_Firefox.jpg](:/da92a5a2f72b4a99aa5bfbf3d01a6f18)

```

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**Author:** ![Coffee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/discourse.joplinapp.org/coffee/32/13365_2.png) [@Coffee](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/u/Coffee)\
**Post date:** [17 June 2024 20:41 UTC](https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/20 "2024-06-17T20:41:15Z")

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> [@Coffee](#):
>
> **Edit** : Something else that could be helpful to know: Does replacing `23754f77d42e42e5bf9cb06a5397a5d9` with `149fbe2a893e4056a66d956387f7706f` in the markdown editor show the resource (or still show a "downloading" icon)?

After this manual change of this ID the Windows Markup 2024-06-17 - 22:40 is

```auto
![69c27e47-2bfa-4c7c-b441-1f472b411f19_w488_r0.7142_fpx55_fpy40.7.webp](:/82e46f13f25a42df990b70de7367e854)

2024-06-17 - 22:10 - I manually changed the content as described at https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/2024-06-14-a-closer-look-at-a-new-conflict/38600/13?u=coffee

Boris Ludwig Pistorius (* 14. März 1960 in Osnabrück) ist ein deutscher Politiker (SPD). Er ist seit dem 19. Januar 2023 Bundesminister der Verteidigung der Bundesrepublik Deutschland. 

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Pistorius

2024-06-14 - [SPD-Frust über Olaf Scholz: Der Drinnenolaf und der Draußenscholz - DER SPIEGEL](:/024ab1bab9e34f1fb22d19cf5b1dd1a9)
![Screenshot_20240614_171005_Firefox.jpg](:/da92a5a2f72b4a99aa5bfbf3d01a6f18)

```

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